god(s) and gods
James Wynn · 29 Nov 2010, 18:42
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:42:27 -0600 Subject: (urth) god(s) and gods In-Reply-To: <4CF1C33F.9020801 at sky.com> References: <4CF1C33F.9020801 at sky.com> Message-ID: <4CF3F413.8080709 at gmail.com> > Jane Delawney- > Not at all sure what this means but anyway ... > > Why is Typhon known as Pas on the Whorl? The noxious kind-of-canines > which roam the Whorl's ventilation / heat-exchange system are known by > the Whorl's chem soldiers (and also by Vironese convicts consigned to > the Pits) as gods, because they are the exact reverse of what one > would normally expect a domesticated dog to be (ferocious instead of > benign, unmanageable rather than obedient, and so forth). Silk is a > little leery of this designation for obvious reasons, but uses it none > the less because there is no other name for them. 'Pas' is Serbo-Croat > for 'dog'. And Typhon/Pas is in most ways the exact reverse of what > many would expect a father-god to be; he's a 'dog' rather than a > 'god'. Would not be at all unlike GW to introduce this kind of > bilingual pun ... just because. It gets all of us scratching our > heads, and is pretty amusing once one has figured it out - yet it has > no deeper significance at all, it's just Typhon (or rather GW through > 'Typhon') having a laugh. Any views? This is not unlikely. I have elsewhere posited that the name of the city "Viron" is associated with the word for werewolf, "vironsusi". Wolfe would have either come across this term while researching the werewolves in Herodotus or became interested in Herodotus for the same reason he would be researching foreign words related to "wolf". http://urth.org/whorlmap/viron For the same reason, he be expected to look up foreign words, especially European words, for "dog", since European grey wolves are the ancestors of all dogs. I like this reference a lot, Jane, since I have always thought there was too little to firm ground for Wolfe choice in this analogy. "Pas = dog" and "god=dog" provides an etymological reason that the dogs of the underworld are reverse of the celestial Whorl gods (who are themselves daemons/demons, because a daemon is a spirit and a programming function). http://urth.org/whorlmap/bufe.htm And additionally, of course, as we discussed before, "pas" is Koine Greek for "all", that is Pan, and Pan is the only god to die in historical time. Also, Zeus's died as well and his grave was honored in Crete. Layer upon layer. u+16b9 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20101129/c784d727/attachment.htm>
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