Shadow Children and Inhumi
Mark Millman · 30 Nov 2010, 21:15
· from 2010-November.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: markjmillman at gmail.com (Mark Millman) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:15:17 -0500 Subject: (urth) Shadow Children and Inhumi In-Reply-To: <4CF5663D.3020502 at gmail.com> References: <SNT123-w287824975EF2FA19FFDEEDCF250 at phx.gbl> <B1CA7F44880B4F788F3A4DFB41E2DD6D@jill> <AANLkTikDBs_Co+jM3Dp4GRwbNHipJzt_YAbqUZ85dvbM at mail.gmail.com> <4CF5663D.3020502 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <AANLkTinPOwSJa_xRpXGQsmpejhXHo1JQYbMuS1VQrnq0 at mail.gmail.com> Dear Mr. Wynn, On Tuesday 30 November 2010, you replied: >> No doubt Wolfe also had >> in mind the fact that Norse >> mythology is one of the >> few that predicts the world's >> ultimate--i.e., not cyclical, >> with its implication of rebirth-- >> destruction by the forces of >> chaos, darkness, ice, and >> fire. > > This is a common misapprehension. Odin's > sons Vidar and Vali (Vidar having slain > Fenrir) survive Ragnarok (the floods and fires) > and live in the new fields where Asgard (now > burned up and washed away) used to be. > Personally, I can't think of an single end-times > myth right now that does not involve new > worlds, lands, and/or people. I subscribe to the idea that the world's refounding by Odin's sons is a late addition to the mythology, influenced by Christianity. >> Please note that it -is- pos- >> sible to over-interpret. ?Some >> of the recent postings, in my >> opinion, have done so to a >> tremendous and bewildering >> extent. > > I disagree about "over-interpreting", but "mis- > interpreting", selecting the wrong key is very > easy. For my part, I think that over-interpreting is mis-interpreting. Humans are pattern-making animals. Adept ones find difficult patterns; but the most adept know when a perceived pattern is only apparent, and misleading. > However, I find that it often happens that some > will ho-hum interpretations merely because > they lack the necessary foundations to appre- > ciate them. Often, what looks like a mere dec- > orative doorway to the naive is clearly a sup- > porting structure to an engineer. That's always a danger. See above on adeptness. > Also, a lot of whats involved in figuring out a > Wolfe novel is randomly trying out keys. So, > I never mind when someone else is doing that. But some keys don't get discarded even after it's become clear that they're false leads; and some interpreters are tone-deaf. > u+16b9 Best, Mark Millman
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net