academic commentary
António Pedro Marques · 01 Dec 2010, 20:08
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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW50w7NuaW8gUGVkcm8gTWFycXVlcw==?=) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:08:29 +0000 Subject: (urth) academic commentary In-Reply-To: <516772.59521.qm at web37603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <SNT123-W90C362128623D2A57C5AACF240 at phx.gbl> <964735.56099.qm at web37604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4CF3D13D.1020405 at verizon.net> <4CF3D50C.20400 at gmail.com> <4CF3ED73.2020900 at verizon.net> <AANLkTikbgXyJTts_02R7sw7sa3f1jd07tMqW-KwdEa+8 at mail.gmail.com> <4CF4297A.9090302 at verizon.net> <4CF437C9.6000707 at gmail.com> <AANLkTikt_fnrdZS8CUPjeT3P9HRXwPfC-2BHXpjNbRvp at mail.gmail.com> <4CF4F047.7090504 at gmail.com> <AANLkTimq1Fp_PviFQjq6y=GgB7jzVW_K0-1UxQP_NCyZ at mail.gmail.com> <4CF54F7D.7050205 at gmail.com> <AANLkTi=KbyHRi7K-oB_E11SMEsNQXyuTgn50JXWMd1yf at mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTikCZFSfWf-18ZdZFVai-+w-BgWZgvYRpS32cE-M at mail.gmail.com> <516772.59521.qm at web37603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4CF6AB3D.6060501 at gmail.com> I'll take this opportunity to present a couple of points: Craig Brewer wrote (01-12-2010 17:25): > I generally agree. Or rather, I absolutely agree about things internal > to the text. > > When it comes to the author's stated intentions or explanations of a > text, though, I'm more conflicted. That's particularly true with Wolfe. > Personally, I have to say that any text that can only be understood in > relation to something outside of it (an interview, a conversation with > the author, etc.) is a flawed text. I disagree. That's just a property of the text. (But I think that Wolfe's not such a case.) > But the opposite extreme can also be a difficulty when people impose > biographical information on a text. That usually results in inferior work - because the biographical drive is stronger than the creative -, but it's not usually the religious writers who do it. (But I think that Wolfe's not such a case.) > An author has every right to tell us we're wrong about what happens; he > has less right to tell us we're wrong about what it means. Maybe even none at all, and even what happens may be open to discussion. > (To make this relate to Wright, I think he's has every right to read New > Sun *against* the religious meaning many of us might assume Wolfe > intended. I strongly disagree. If we susbtitute reader intent for author intent we're no better off than where we started. > If that's the reading the text ultimately supports - and, granted, > that's the point of the debate with him - then that's what it supports. The issue is also that such a rich text can support all kinds of meanings. *But only* arrived at through thorough examination. Analysis that stops half way will always be half way, even if its same conclusions might be arrived at by a further, more thorough, analysis. > It doesn't matter at all what Wolfe thought he was writing or what we'd > like it to mean if the text ultimately goes in a Wright's direction. Lot > of *IF*s there, of course, but I think it's just really bad logic to say > that Wright has to be wrong, a priori, because Wolfe is Catholic or > because he's said in interviews that the book has a "true" religious > meaning, or what have you. It always has to go back to the best reading > of the books as we have them.) It's just that I haven't seen anyone say that the books have to be read a certain way because Wolfe intended them that way. The most I've seen is that they should be read a certain way because they're richer that way.
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