God/Increate in the New Sun
Ryan Dunn · 02 Dec 2010, 17:47
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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 12:47:33 -0500 Subject: (urth) God/Increate in the New Sun In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJFKNrWVEG=+3z+pxHQ+otQCwN4F5FHHzWV1Vq at mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTik74RnPrKVV00FOv3zNF5D9PJBdVTTcsf35=jzG at mail.gmail.com> <178E24A5-F794-431A-98B7-64E15953B256 at liftingfaces.com> <4CF7CF19.1060808 at gmail.com> <559139.44238.qm at web37602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <AANLkTimJFKNrWVEG=+3z+pxHQ+otQCwN4F5FHHzWV1Vq at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5D718E-7455-493F-B4C2-C2207821E9DD at liftingfaces.com> On Dec 2, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > I think I addressed this obliquely in a recent post. > > No, I don't beleive that there is any place in New Sun, or the > first-person sections of Short Sun where the Increate acts directly. > The only (unambiguously?) miraculous events in the entire Solar cycle > seem to happen when someone who was not present at the event -- Horn > in Long Sun, the Next Generation in Short Sun -- is doing the > narrating. > > This may be significant. > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote: >> All this talk about atheism has me wondering since it's been a couple of years >> now since I've actually re-read it: are there any passages in New Sun where the >> Increate acts directly? In Long Sun, obviously, we have Silk's opening vision. >> But is there anything equivalent with Severian that is (or appears to be) >> something that wasn't the Hiero's doing? >> >> That's probably a difficult question to answer and likely slides easily into >> speculation. Still, I'm interested. Forgive my ignorance, but was the actual act of restoring the sun an act between Severian and the Increate? Or were the Hiero's responsible for this? There is the passage which details the Hierogrammates having to leave one universe for another through a "side exit" of sorts, as I recall, which implied they did not have control over its conditions enough to prevent their having to flee. I just don't remember the mechanics of how the sun was restored, and the ramifications of the subsequent flood. ...ryan
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