Foes of the Increate

Son of Witz · 03 Dec 2010, 21:47 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:47:45 -0800
Subject: (urth) Foes of the Increate
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Good points Lee.

That note was originally called Foes of the New Sun.
I changed it because I'm trying to expose the metaphor behind the masks.
All of these types of foes represent classic denials of God and God's gifts.
By overcoming them, and breaking all alegiences, he aligns himself with the increate.
It is significant that after Baldanders, he finally finds the Pelerines and makes good on his promise to return the claw.  I'm convinced the Pelerines are a standin for the remnants of a catholic style church of the Conciliator. So then, when Severian tries to bring  Master Ash back to them, we get a clear indicator that he is now on the right path.  He winks out of existance because the probability of his future is now nil, or next to nil.

On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Well, its too late now. ;- ). I'd hoped to put in a plea to change the Subject to
> "Foes of the New Sun". My image of a foe of the Increate is a guy pulling out a knife
> and attempting to stab every rock, tree, grain of sand, molecule of air and cell in 
> his own body..and then the stars....Surely the Increate loves all his creations equally, 
> be they friend or foe to the New Sun or even Himself (if that were possible). 
> 
> 
> I really think all of Witz Progeny's enemies can be more specifically characterized as
> opposing the New Sun. None of them seem to be around on Ushas anyway (good reason to 
> exclude Juturna). 
> 
> By mentioning the Ascians, I think Witz sufficiently includes Abaia and Erebus. Those
> big fat asses don't do anything themselves but only work through their agents. Which 
> should probably include Vodalus and his followers (eventually including Agia) as enemies
> of the New Sun. Vodalus wants to move humanity back to a former time of glory, not forward.
> His "pelagic" secret code words suggest their connection to the sea monsters as does their
> association with the Ascian war effort.                         
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