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Who's Right

Ryan Dunn · 04 Dec 2010, 02:58 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 21:58:51 -0500
Subject: (urth) Who's Right
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If you visualize the dog-ape in the lazaret and the red ape in the jungle in terms of how you would film their presence, there is no escaping the reality is that both of these creatures are very clearly watching/spying on Severian.

I find that, as well, to be significant.

...ryan

On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:

> On 12/3/2010 2:53 PM, Ryan Dunn wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe it's because BotNS is set in an equatorial region, with jungles,
>>> whereas SoA is set in Europe, where there aren't any monkeys?
>>> Are you saying all these monkeys and apes are connected? Because many
>>> of them seem quite distinct.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm saying that at least four characters being described as monkeys is
>> noteworthy in the text. Maybe you do not?
> 
> Most of the characters are monkeylike because they are primaates, but some are more monkeylike than others. It is the non-primates who still look like monkeys that are significant.
> 
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> Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
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