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Who's Right

Ryan Dunn · 04 Dec 2010, 05:59 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:59:44 -0500
Subject: (urth) Who's Right
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On Dec 4, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:

> On 12/3/2010 8:58 PM, Ryan Dunn wrote:
>> If you visualize the dog-ape in the lazaret and the red ape in the jungle in terms of how you would film their presence, there is no escaping the reality is that both of these creatures are very clearly watching/spying on Severian.
>> 
>> I find that, as well, to be significant.
>> 
>> ...ryan
> 
> I hadn't included those as characters. I suppose that is a prejusdice on my part ingrained form being lambasted by my 9th grade English teacher for considering the dog in "There Will Come Soft Rains" a character, since it's an animal in a famously characterless story.
> 
> I imagine the watching apes are covert aquastors, which is rather more sporting than making them invisible. Their lack of invisibility like aquastor Triskele might mean they are agents of a faction with a less skilled operator or poorer equipment.


To be aquastors, don't they have to exist in Severian's memory already, in order to become projections? Or are you saying they are some hybridization of beings Severian already has seen? Where would the ape-headed dog have come from?

...ryan

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