Who's Right?
Ryan Dunn · 04 Dec 2010, 13:51
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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 08:51:34 -0500 Subject: (urth) Who's Right? In-Reply-To: <0232A869-5C62-4803-9461-344D257FD58A at liftingfaces.com> References: <SNT123-W16C081A0AC31C28025F34FCF290 at phx.gbl> <0232A869-5C62-4803-9461-344D257FD58A at liftingfaces.com> Message-ID: <37DF5567-AC56-4A6A-9D9D-A10E37B8BF61 at liftingfaces.com> On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Ryan Dunn wrote: > On Dec 4, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Lee Berman wrote: > >>> Andrew Mason: I agree that there's more to Agia than mees the eye. There are a >>> couple of definite indicators of this: her use of the symbol of the >>> Jurupari (if that's what it was); Agilus' ribbons. >> >> Agilus' ribbons might be connected to the Jungle Sorcerers' masks. Agia uses a >> claw weapon much like (perhaps identical) to those of the jungle guys to cut >> Severian's face. >> >> (Actually I also find much hidden significance to Agia's other weapons- >> the misericorde, the athame and the crooked dagger. I can elaborate if anyone is >> interested.) >> >> The Jurupari is a jungle demon. Also a fish known as the earth eater. And there is a >> thematic connection between the fish and the demon reminscent of Abaia and undines. >> >> And as mentioned before I am intrigued by how Agia herds Severian around Nessus and the >> Commonwealth and her association with a weird little guy from outer space who is clever >> with mirrors (Inire-Hethor ambiguity intended). > > > Simpler still, we meet Agilus with a mask on. It looks real enough, and skeletal. He takes it off and reveals his "real face". He is laying there near dead, and Severian sees more ribbons. > > Isn't this more likely to connect to the Hiero's and their masks under masks? Two alien poppets for the price of one? > > ...ryan And no, I haven't forgotten how real his head is when it is lobbed off, but I am still trying to reconcile the ribbons, which almost have to indicate that his face is a mask, right? Unless I'm reading it wrong. ...ryan
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