Dionysus
James Wynn · 06 Dec 2010, 21:24
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:24:08 -0600 Subject: (urth) Dionysus In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W12FF99F0FE7CE0B037804ECF2B0 at phx.gbl> References: <SNT123-W12FF99F0FE7CE0B037804ECF2B0 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4CFD5478.6010802 at gmail.com> On 12/6/2010 2:43 PM, Lee Berman wrote: >> Roy C. Lackey: If the entity who represented all humans was a Neighbor, not a human, then he was not a true >> representative of the human race and was not qualified to speak on its behalf. > > Since that entity had Horn's body and memories mustn't we define him, within James' theory, as part-human part-Neighbor? I would not say so. I sat in on a Wolfe Q&A discussion in which someone said, "...and after all, Typhon was on the Whorl as Pas, in a way." Wolfe adamantly corrected him, "Not 'in a way', he _was_ on the Whorl." Well, what was transferable from Typhon to Pas was what would be contained Horn's living body: His memories and his sense of identity. If Typhon was every bit on the Whorl as Pas then Horn was entirely there as the resurrected Horn 100%. And if a body in dream-travel is to be thought of as "all there", then the spirit of the resurrected Horn (the Neighbor) is 100% there too. So the resurrected Horn is 100% human, 100% Neighbor. I have more to say about this in the rest of my answer to Gerry and Roy. u+16b9
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