Dionysus

James Wynn · 08 Dec 2010, 23:34 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:34:39 -0600
Subject: (urth) Dionysus
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>> James Wynn wrote:
>> Dionysus is called the God of Vine, literally. I know of no place where he is called the God of the Grape Vine.
> Andrew Mason-
> Historically, 'vine' means grape vine. Its use to mean any climbing
> plant is quite recent. That is why Dionysus is called God of the Vine.
> On the other hand, he is also associated with ivy, so a link with
> climbing plants more generally is not ruled out.

So...we agree that he's is the god of the "vine", not just grape vines.
I do not believe specific species of vines mattered to Wolfe for this 
association one little bit. Dionysus was the God of the Vine.  Inhumi 
were, are, or become vines on Blue as well as Green in some way no one 
but Wolfe seems to understand. Done. When the Sileni drank wine they 
believed they were possessed by a spirit of that wine. When inhuma drink 
blood their children are possessed by the spirit of the person who gave 
the blood. The word inhuma comes from a word association between the 
bird and the designations for Dionysus. Quetzal performs many of the 
deeds from Dionysus's life.

The Outsider is associated with Dionysus in the novel. Silk is 
associated both with Dionysus (since it is said by some that the "son of 
Thyone" is the son of Pas), and he is associated with followers of 
Dionysus (multiple instances).

I'm glad we cleared that up.

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