Dionysus

David Stockhoff · 08 Dec 2010, 23:41 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:41:11 -0500
Subject: (urth) Dionysus
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What about his association with a certain Rush album from the 1970s?

Is Wolfe a Rush fan?

I think we need to explore all possible angles.

On 12/8/2010 6:34 PM, James Wynn wrote:
>
>>> James Wynn wrote:
>>> Dionysus is called the God of Vine, literally. I know of no place 
>>> where he is called the God of the Grape Vine.
>> Andrew Mason-
>> Historically, 'vine' means grape vine. Its use to mean any climbing
>> plant is quite recent. That is why Dionysus is called God of the Vine.
>> On the other hand, he is also associated with ivy, so a link with
>> climbing plants more generally is not ruled out.
>
> So...we agree that he's is the god of the "vine", not just grape vines.
> I do not believe specific species of vines mattered to Wolfe for this 
> association one little bit. Dionysus was the God of the Vine.  Inhumi 
> were, are, or become vines on Blue as well as Green in some way no one 
> but Wolfe seems to understand. Done. When the Sileni drank wine they 
> believed they were possessed by a spirit of that wine. When inhuma 
> drink blood their children are possessed by the spirit of the person 
> who gave the blood. The word inhuma comes from a word association 
> between the bird and the designations for Dionysus. Quetzal performs 
> many of the deeds from Dionysus's life.
>
> The Outsider is associated with Dionysus in the novel. Silk is 
> associated both with Dionysus (since it is said by some that the "son 
> of Thyone" is the son of Pas), and he is associated with followers of 
> Dionysus (multiple instances).
>
> I'm glad we cleared that up.
>
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