Father Inire Theory cont.

David Stockhoff · 11 Dec 2010, 17:06 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:06:35 -0500
Subject: (urth) Father Inire Theory cont.
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I'm glad you don't take my questioning too personally!

Here's a quick and dirty Googled bit on the number 5:

Now as we approach the meaning of Five we begin to extend ourselves even 
further into the outer reaches of numerology. Each number expanding out 
from One represents a container holding all its predecessors within its 
vibration.

Meaning, the number five is a container that holds the energy of One 
<http://www.tarotteachings.com/meaning-of-one.html>, Two 
<http://www.tarotteachings.com/meaning-of-two.html>, Three 
<http://www.tarotteachings.com/meaning-of-three.html> and Four 
<http://www.tarotteachings.com/meaning-of-four.html>. All of the 
*tumultuousness and beneficence* found in these numbers mixed up into 
the Five. Yeah, it's a head-trip to consider the godly digits embodied 
into one number.

And so the meaning of Five expresses that expansiveness and its ability 
to know itself as a whole through the interaction of its essential parts.

Essentially, Five is the first of digits that is in a constant 
(sometimes /driven/) state of *balancing its own equation.*

The meaning of Five gets more dicey when we recognize its association 
with humankind. Five fingers, five toes, five tactile senses. These 
associations give number Five a *link to the physical*, and a grounded 
vibration that is similar to Four, but on a much more intricate scale.

But this grounding physicality must play a co-starring role in the 
essence of Five when we consider the Greek concept of the */fifth 
element./* The Greeks marveled over the philosophy of Five, and 
recognized the pentagram as a perfect symbol to represent the four 
elements (water, air, earth, and fire) PLUS the fifth element as a 
*unifying factor.* This fifth element, as Plutarch observed, is the 
ether or quintessence that instills harmony and unity to all elements.

Indeed, the Greeks held the number Five as a representation of 
*dispensing spiritual knowledge* (Sound familiar? Hierophant resonates 
with number Five) and considered it a vehicle for gaining proper 
spiritual understanding.

Also considered, as I said before, to symbolize grace---much like the 
concept of balance above.

On 12/11/2010 8:56 AM, Lee Berman wrote:
>> David Stockhoff- My 2 cents ...
> Thanks for the interest in my theory and the responses to it. They are appreciated and
> helpful. I'm sure the admonitions are meant as a reminder to me and other readers
> here to not get too lost in one's over-thought personal vision.
>
> As I've tried to express previously, this is not a concern for me. I spent 20
> years reading BotNS on the surface level and I haven't lost that perspective.
> A 5 pronged candlestick can be just a light source. Ultan can be seen as a venerated
> servant of the Autarch. Severian could really be a 20 year old virgin.
>
> I always knew BotNS had a Secret House built within it, like the House Absolute. I just
> couldn't see it very clearly. It was the participants on this Board and their contributions
> which allowed me to see the Old Crone with high definition and detail, within the picture of
> the Young Lady, and I'll be eternally grateful for that. I wouldn't expect my view of the Old
> Crone to be exactly like anyone else's. But if my description of her can help anyone else, as I
> have been helped, then it has all been worth it. 		 	   		
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