christ, already

Lee Berman · 15 Dec 2010, 20:09 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:09:55 -0500
Subject: (urth) christ, already
Message-ID: <SNT123-W35B558B28D87A01F2F3A06CF140 at phx.gbl>

>Dan'l D. Oakes:  The Outsider is the Christian God, to be sure

I don't know enough to debate yea or nay on this. But RttW seems to explicitly define
The Outsider as The God of Wine, son of Thyone. i.e.  a version of Dionysus. I think there
are some who here have knowledge which suggests there is religious justification for considering
Dionysus as a version or precursor of Christ.

>the stories analogous to those of Jesus are attributed to "a fortunate man whom
>the Outsider had both enlightened and possessed" -- an Jesus-analogue in the Briahtic Universe.

I think it was Andrew who recently pointed out the Long Sun story of a legendary figure who got
busy with moneychangers in a temple.

In one interview, Gene Wolfe quips that since Jesus used a scourge during that temple episode, even 
he knows what it is to be a torturer.

Some interesting conjoining of concepts here. I'm interested how y'all might sort them out.

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