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DAVID STOCKHOFF · 15 Dec 2010, 21:11 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (DAVID STOCKHOFF)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:11:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) christ, already
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Well, whoever the "fortunate man ... possessed by the Outsider" was, he must not have been crucified. Not very fortunate, that.

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>
Subject: (urth) christ, already
To: urth at lists.urth.net
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 3:09 PM



>Dan'l D. Oakes:? The Outsider is the Christian God, to be sure
 
I don't know enough to debate yea or nay on this. But RttW seems to explicitly define
The Outsider as The God of Wine, son of Thyone. i.e.? a version of Dionysus. I think there
are some who here have knowledge which suggests there is religious justification for considering
Dionysus as a version or precursor of Christ.
 
>the stories analogous to those of Jesus are attributed to "a fortunate man whom
>the Outsider had both enlightened and possessed" -- an Jesus-analogue in the Briahtic Universe.
 
I think it was Andrew who recently pointed out the Long Sun story of a legendary figure who got
busy with moneychangers in a temple.
 
In one interview, Gene Wolfe quips that since Jesus used a scourge during that temple episode, even 
he knows what it is to be a torturer.
 
Some interesting conjoining of concepts here. I'm interested how y'all might sort them out.
 
 
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