christ, already
DAVID STOCKHOFF · 15 Dec 2010, 21:11
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (DAVID STOCKHOFF) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:11:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: (urth) christ, already In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W35B558B28D87A01F2F3A06CF140 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <794300.54286.qm at web84108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, whoever the "fortunate man ... possessed by the Outsider" was, he must not have been crucified. Not very fortunate, that. --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote: From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> Subject: (urth) christ, already To: urth at lists.urth.net Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 3:09 PM >Dan'l D. Oakes:? The Outsider is the Christian God, to be sure I don't know enough to debate yea or nay on this. But RttW seems to explicitly define The Outsider as The God of Wine, son of Thyone. i.e.? a version of Dionysus. I think there are some who here have knowledge which suggests there is religious justification for considering Dionysus as a version or precursor of Christ. >the stories analogous to those of Jesus are attributed to "a fortunate man whom >the Outsider had both enlightened and possessed" -- an Jesus-analogue in the Briahtic Universe. I think it was Andrew who recently pointed out the Long Sun story of a legendary figure who got busy with moneychangers in a temple. In one interview, Gene Wolfe quips that since Jesus used a scourge during that temple episode, even he knows what it is to be a torturer. Some interesting conjoining of concepts here. I'm interested how y'all might sort them out. ? ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? _______________________________________________ Urth Mailing List To post, write urth at urth.net Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20101215/34eddf50/attachment-0001.htm>
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