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James Wynn · 16 Dec 2010, 17:41
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:41:04 -0600 Subject: (urth) (no subject) In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinet1PVd6X3oKD_UuTT9qm7w01C+fF7qwhU73id at mail.gmail.com> References: <B7D2542A-8A0E-4F19-BF81-F80EAFB9F571 at butcherbaker.org> <590010.75633.qm at web84108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <AANLkTimcMTGQ5HM3o2b9_SyqzFD-T-gPdHk8bENwBaQx at mail.gmail.com> <4D094DE2.5030407 at verizon.net> <BC9543A9-03FF-47BB-BD37-0A5E0AAC69A6 at butcherbaker.org> <4D09F5B4.6090203 at gmail.com> <AANLkTinTRwvf-J7YE-DysQnutXgpc66PudoZLJrANKbz at mail.gmail.com> <4D0A4645.5060105 at verizon.net> <AANLkTinet1PVd6X3oKD_UuTT9qm7w01C+fF7qwhU73id at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D0A4F30.90504 at gmail.com> >> David Stockhoff- >> I understood that to be James' point. Tolkien was a Christian writer. > I'll let James speak for himself if I'm wrong, but I understood his > saying that "Silmarillion does not align with the Bible" as meaning > that it was not in line with Tolkien's actual beliefs. My point is > that, while I doubt that JRRT actually "believed" the Silmarillion, > its cosmology actually _does_ align with the Bible, with the correct > dance steps. > --Dan'l Ehh...The creation story in Silmarillion simply does not jive with Genesis. I don't see how all the hammers and grease in Mordor could wedge it in. While there's nothing _hostile_ to Judeo-Christianity in Middle Earth, I seem to recall that Tolkien said in "Letters" that he deliberately left religion out of the books. While Wolfe has not been so careful about not touching the high-voltage wire called Religion, I think the same thing applies in that his characters think and talk about religion in different terms than we do. It is essentially the same as in the Soldier books. Wolfe deals with religion from the perspective of his characters, not in the way he would if he were teaching a Sunday School class. The themes and concepts are compatible and sometimes analogous. The characters' sense of their relationship to the Increate is different. Irreconcilably different. And no amount of dancing will bridge the gap. To try to do so is like asking for scientific justification for Galadriel's bowl. Or to question whether a human baby raised by a tribe of chimpanzees would survive, let alone come to lead the troop. u+16b9
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