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David Stockhoff · 16 Dec 2010, 22:22 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:22:25 -0500
Subject: (urth) (no subject)
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Now you're making things up. First, what evidence? Second, what 
difference are you talking about?

On 12/16/2010 2:38 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>> As I tried to specifically state, grace is not salvation but rather a 
>> consolation prize for nonbelievers. Let's let the theologians parse 
>> that. But for you to insist that salvation exists "just because" is 
>> worse than a leap.
>
> We have evidence for the existence of Jesus.  We have no evidence for 
> any difference between the Jesus of this universe (if different 
> universe it is) and our own.
>
> It seems to me that the leap is to assume a difference.
>
> - Gerry Quinn


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