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Matthew Weber · 16 Dec 2010, 22:43 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: palaeologos at gmail.com (Matthew Weber)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:43:37 -0800
Subject: (urth) (no subject)
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As far as evidence is concerned, the same sort of evidence exists for Jesus
as exists for Socrates.  There doesn't seem to be any good reason to assume
he didn't exist, unless such an assumption is necessary to validate a
distaste for Christianity (or religion in general).

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:22 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:

> Now you're making things up. First, what evidence? Second, what difference
> are you talking about?
>
> On 12/16/2010 2:38 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
>> As I tried to specifically state, grace is not salvation but rather a
>>> consolation prize for nonbelievers. Let's let the theologians parse that.
>>> But for you to insist that salvation exists "just because" is worse than a
>>> leap.
>>>
>>
>> We have evidence for the existence of Jesus.  We have no evidence for any
>> difference between the Jesus of this universe (if different universe it is)
>> and our own.
>>
>> It seems to me that the leap is to assume a difference.
>>
>> - Gerry Quinn
>>
>
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Matt +

Let each man pass his days in that wherein his skill is greatest.
    Sextus Propertius (54 B.C.-A.D. 2), Elegies, II, i, 46
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