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David Stockhoff · 17 Dec 2010, 12:55 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:55:07 -0500
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Andrew, I think the theology and the text converge on these points. 
Thanks for putting it so well.

On 12/17/2010 7:30 AM, Andrew Mason wrote:
> Lee Berman wrote:
>
> . Since I am not a Christian or religious, it didn't
>> >  bother me to think that Severian and the story I treasure was not in a Judeo-Christian universe.
> It depends, I think, what we mean by saying that it's not a
> Judaeo-Christian universe. A universe without a saviour? It may be;
> I'm not committed on that. But if we (as Christians) believe in
> universes without a saviour in them, that is because the saving power
> of the Christ in this world extends to them. A universe not made - or
> caused, at least indirectly - by the Judaeo-Christian God? I find it
> very hard to believe that Wolfe would conceive of that. (I mean, he
> might well think 'Suppose God as we know him did not exist, but a
> completely different kind of first principle did'. But I don't think
> he would imagine that within a cycle of universes some of which are
> made by the Judaeo-Christian God, others are not.  God, if he exists
> at all, is all-embracing.)
>
> It seems to be a running theme of the_Sun_  cycle that while there are
> many beings that can be called gods, there is one true God; and that
> God is often imagined in Christian terms (though I agree he is
> imagined in pagan terms as well).
>
> The presence of other gods (in some sense) does not count against
> this, I think, because Wolfe believes in the existence of pagan gods
> within this universe, which is made by the Judaeo-Christian God.


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