Key to the Universe

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 17 Dec 2010, 20:14 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:14:34 -0800
Subject: (urth) Key to the Universe
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Well, just because it doesn't exist yet doesn't mean that it won't. But I
agree that it is a product of Briah in Severian's past.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:11 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:

> It's NOT a contemporary painting---it doesn't exist in this universe, as
> far as anyone here has been able to discover. Therefore, it is a product of
> Briah in Severian's past.
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Son of Witz <Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Son of Witz <Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>
>
> Subject: Re: (urth) Key to the Universe
> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 12:52 PM
>
>
> Third. I've really been chewing over the Apollo moon landing painting.
> We all seem to take it on face value that it is Neil or Buzz, an obvious
> nod to the extreme distance of time between Urth and Earth.  But really, the
> text does not disambiguate this depiction, so we have to admit that it may
> NOT ACTUALLY be a painting of the Apollo Moon Landing. It may be a photo of
> an Urth empire astronaut pre-moon forrestation.  Wolfe may be giving us a
> double mind-fuck!
>
> I used to assume that this painting and a green moon clearly indicated that
> Earth was in Urth's past, whithin the creation of Briah. I don't think that
> is a necessary conclusion now.  If a verdant lune is a creation of
> urthlings, it is conceivable that without their tendings, the moon could go
> back to being barren, and thus we would see our barren moon despite it once
> having had a forrest.
>
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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
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