The Outsider

Son of Witz · 18 Dec 2010, 01:35 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:35:43 -0800
Subject: (urth) The Outsider
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True, it may mean between suns. But I'd wager Ultan is learned enough to choose his words carefully, and would likely know as much about this stuff as Malrubius's aquastor. 


On Dec 17, 2010, at 1:44 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:

> That line is ambiguous, but I conservatively read that as meaning "between suns." In other words, a "creation" is a world in that case, not a universe. 
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> Perhaps a survey of Severian's use of that term is in order.
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> --- On Fri, 12/17/10, Son of Witz <Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:
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> From: Son of Witz <Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>
> Subject: Re: (urth) The Outsider
> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 3:38 PM
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> Yes, my point was that we have a book that crossed from one creation to the other, so we may have other things, which may be the Astronaut Painting, which is NOT a photo, so it's not impotant that no one can pinpoint it.  I think it's likely that it SHOULD be understood as an Earth Astronaut with a USA flag, beacuse Wolfe was the script supervisor on the (aborted) Innovation Comics adaptation. The image shown is as I describe. I think he would have vetoed that if it was wrong.
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> But it doesn't address incarnation, which is why I changed the subject. I was breaking a tangent off from the Christ discussion.
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> Also, Master Ultan says that the library houses "books cased in perfumed woods shipped across the inconceivable gulf between creations - books doubly precious because no one on Urth can read them."
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> So I'm saying each creation, acording to the text, is not a closed system.
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