the voice of the outsider is the conjunction of pas/kypris

Lee Berman · 19 Dec 2010, 17:11 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman)
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:11:08 -0500
Subject: (urth) the voice of the outsider is the conjunction of pas/kypris
Message-ID: <SNT123-W50ACA26C9379E87EF0AD7ECF180 at phx.gbl>

>I wouldn't want anyone to miss the subversiveness of Marc's theory. He's 
>saying the Outsider is actually Typhon and Kypris manipulating him.

I agree that it is subversive but I get the opposite impression of Marc's theory. If 
anything, The Outsider as the One True God is manipulating Typhon and Kypris. Quite
a briliant theory/concept, actually (and Marc correct me if I'm wrong, but risk dimming the 
brilliance, ;-))

It is subversive in that it suggests the almighty, incomprehensible God of Briah, at times, will 
split Himself into pieces which can operate directly at the human level. Proper (and inevitable) 
human action will reuinite the pieces in the proper way to provide a miraculous, human-level ephiphany 
or syngergy or something which truly expresses God in a way we can almost comprehend and understand. 
Kypris + Pas.  Severian + Apheta. etc.

This is subversive in that it might suggest our Earthy God does the same thing; spliting himself
into ancient nature gods, then reforming. Then splitting into Olympian gods then coalescing again.
Could it be that Jesus was just one such synergy among many in our history. Dionysus, Buddha, Muhammed
etc.  Could it mean we are due for another?

What gods do we worship now which could be coalesced into a global epiphany? Jahweh, Allah, Brahma and 
Satan?  Science, economics, politics and warfare? I dunno.

Well, I've taken it places Marc probably never intended. But I'm interested to see his own interpretation
of what he is saying.

> On 12/18/2010 10:49 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:
>> Okay, the problem with the syncretism of Wolfe's universe is 
>> multifold for interpreting whether a "Jesus" exists.  Some of Silk's 
>> "Enlightenment" seems to have scenes of the life of Christ, without a 
>> doubt.  Unfortunately, they have a secular explanation.  They are 
>> pre-recorded in his head from his father Pas and his mother the blue 
>> eyed Kypris, or Typhon and his mistress, who I believe to be the blue 
>> eyed dark haired sleeper Mamelta.  The two voices speaking in his 
>> head is the voice of the Outsider, who is for all intents and 
>> purposes both our God and Typhon in conjunction with his Mistress, 
>> the goddess of love.  Wolfe makes Crane's explanation seem lame but 
>> there is a real physical explanation for it since Silk is a planted 
>> grown embryo specially chosen by Typhon who "wants an heir".  All the 
>> enlightenment is secular, BUT THAT DOESN"T MEAN IT ISN"T DIVINE TOO.
>> This is why Wolfe is so amazing and all these divergent 
>> interpretations are possible.  Sure, the Outsider seems to be the 
>> Christian God, but he is all the pagan gods, and Typhon in love, the 
>> Satan figure redeemed by the love that sets free.  The degraded and 
>> the downcast become something much more, whether it be Severian 
>> becoming the Conciliator or Typhon becoming the Outsider, or at least 
>> a very important agent of the Outsider whose plan is indistinguishable.
>> Marc
>>

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