the voice of the outsider is the conjunction of pas/kypris

Marc Aramini · 21 Dec 2010, 15:15 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:15:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) the voice of the outsider is the conjunction of
	pas/kypris
In-Reply-To: <ACF9ABBD98444C6E8EA8A49BF7758793@jill>
Message-ID: <155429.94538.qm at web58201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Well, Gerry, this depends how much credence you put in dreams and throw away comments in the text.? Here are some quotes that outright say Kypris is Mamelta, and I infer that Kypris is just possessing Hyacinth.
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This is a cut and paste from a very old post of mine to the archives.
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vision on page 534 of Litany of the Long Sun

"the woman who slept in the glass tube, the tube in
which he himself now slept beside Chenille, who was
Kypris, who was Hyacinth, who was Mamelta, with
Hyacinth's jet-black hair,"

Chenille and Hyacinth were both possessed by Kypris -
and since Mamelta has Hyacinth hair, and Kypris had
Hyacinth hair, and they are all related here, I
figured it would be neat if Mamelta were Kypris. Then
I found this bit of niftiness: p 424

"But quite soon now, as the swift floater sailed over
a landscape grown liquid, his mother would come to
kiss him good-night; he liked to be awake for it, to
say distinctly, 'good night to you, too Mama,' when
she left. He resolved not to sleep until she came"

Here, Silk resolves not to sleep until his mommy comes
(here, it is Mama). Well, who does he meet in the next
chapter?? Mamelta! And later, what do we get in
Epiphany of the Long Sun (Calde,actually) on page 220:
"The Outsider was the dancing man on a toy, and the
water the polished toy-top on which he danced with
Kypris, who was Hyacinth and Mother, too."

Kypris is Mother!? and she is probably Mamelta, too. 
Now I understand why the Mamelta scene is so familiar
- it is like the Dorcas scene in Shadow of the
Torturer - except instead of Grandma, we get Silk's
mom! In the scene where he leaves his body, I am
certain that the tall man with blue eyes is Pas, and 
the mother (not the one who raised him) was Mamelta.

--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie> wrote:

From: Gerry Quinn gerryq at indigo.ie

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I don't think Mamelta fits the part of Kypris well.? She seems to remember an ordinary life on Urth.? She doesn't speak like Kypris.? She gives no evidence of special concern with her appearance.? She is trained as a computer technician.
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Without any obvious evidence to vthe contrary, I assume she was just an ordinary Sleeper, one of an indeterminate but large number which may run into millions.
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During her beief appearance does she give any clues to suggest she is someone special?? She was awakened by Mucor, certainly, but she was not the first to be so awakened.
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- Gerry Quinn
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