Fish and Caves

David Stockhoff · 22 Dec 2010, 14:48 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:48:10 -0500
Subject: (urth) Fish and Caves
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Grendel?

Yes, it's incredibly suggestive once you let it sink in. At first 
glance, when you first Google the name, you wonder how an Indonesian eel 
could fit into BOTNS. But of course the name hides as much as it suggests.

Serpents also can grant the power of animal speech, but I don't think 
that applies. Abiaia is not that kind of serpent.

On 12/22/2010 9:40 AM, James Wynn wrote:
>
>> Forgot to clarify- Ourobouros, Echidna, Scylla and the Cumaean can be
>> more associated with snakes
>> than fish but I think the myth name Abaia was chosen for the primary
>> demon on Urth because, as
>> a giant eel, he invokes both fishiness and snakiness, serving as a
>> unifying theme.
>
> In mythology, the Hero Against the Serpent is a common icon.
> Sigurd and Fafnir
> St. George/St. Michael and the dragons
> Apollo and Hera's delphic dragon
> Indra and Vrtra
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