Fish and Caves

Gerry Quinn · 23 Dec 2010, 18:42 · from 2010-December.txt.gz

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From: gerryq at indigo.ie (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:42:19 -0000
Subject: (urth) Fish and Caves
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From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
>
>>>> Ant?nio Pedro Marques-
>>>> I just don't see any compelling evidence that dream travel is across
>>>> time. If it were, shouldn't the trip with Rigoglio be to the time he
>>>> left Urth?
>>>
>>> James Wynn-
>>> Really? So Silk seeing an astral flying Oreb in his room while the
>>> current Oreb is lame downstairs doesn't give you pause?
>>
>>
>> Ant?nio Pedro Marques-
>> It would if it were established that Silk saw an astral flying Oreb in 
>> his room.
>
> Okay. What could possibly establish that for you? Oreb adamantly affirms 
> that it wasn't him. His twin? His father?

Pike's ghost?  Mucor?  A lying night chough who managed to jump and flutter 
a short distance?

Note that Scylla was not possessing Oreb at this time.  Gods had no reason 
to escape into animals until Pas returned.  Why would an ordinary bird be 
capable of astral travel?

And finally - even if Oreb did astrally travel a few yards, what is that 
supposed to tell us about time travel?  Silk did not see two birds 
simultaneously, and even if he had, it would be explainable without time 
travel so long as one of them was asleep.

- Gerry Quinn

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