Fish and Cave
Gerry Quinn · 24 Dec 2010, 15:37
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From: gerryq at indigo.ie (Gerry Quinn) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 15:37:11 -0000 Subject: (urth) Fish and Cave References: <SNT123-W254579E2401097F0508324CF1D0 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <49AD24C205E4448AB4D2C06AF98BEDD5@jill> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Berman" <severiansola at hotmail.com> > >>Gerry Quinn: I don't shrink away from ambiguity - in fact I have been >>pointing out >>ambiguities here! What I don't accept without very strong evidence are >>theories that are self-contradictory. > > Well, yes, what I mean is that by pointing out ambiguities you feel you > are disproving > theories or weakening them perhaps. In this particular case, I pointed out that either of two possible sea goddesses could have been meant - that increases the number of possible theories rather than limits them. Of course by the same token it can slightly weaken any theory based on it being a particular one of the two. It is natural that there should be a tension between the proliferation of theories and their strength. This is precisely why I challenge theories, that is to say I investigate how well the fit with the text as a whole. If every possible theory is equally valid, no theory means anything much. > If self-contradiction really bothers you so much I can understand why you > don't believe in God. > I accept and now much better understand your role in interpreting Gene > Wolfe. It is a valuable > one. For the record, I think there *is* room for believing in God, that is to say I think there are interpretations of the physical universe as we understand it that allow for a God in the strong sense. I do think the universe cannot be self-contradictory. A text can, but preferably should not. I give it the benefit of the doubt until a contradiction is proved. Anyway I will wish you and everyone a Merry Christmas! - Gerry Quinn
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