Lee Berman and Hotmail

Jeff Wilson · 10 Jan 2011, 23:12 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:12:35 -0600
Subject: (urth) Lee Berman and Hotmail
In-Reply-To: <C7844B10-CCD3-41F5-921C-1B0B30813B11 at gmail.com>
References: <575820.32369.qm at web84107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<4D2B8556.6070008 at io.com>
	<C7844B10-CCD3-41F5-921C-1B0B30813B11 at gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D2B9263.2040906 at io.com>

On 1/10/2011 4:28 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
> No dia 10 de Jan de 2011, ?s 22:16, Jeff Wilson<jwilson at io.com>  escreveu:
>
>> On 1/10/2011 4:10 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:
>>> Actually, that must have been my fault. I used plaintext like you suggested, and bottom-posted.
>>
>> Your observation of the correct standards does not mean Lee is free to snooze at the console.
>
> David actually didn't quote you, he simply included your text and added his. Maybe yahoo is to blame, as suggested.

Yahoo contributes, but the sender remains ultimately responsible for the 
content of their messages, and a reasonable person could see that my 
signature ended what I contributed and what followed was David's 
original composiiton, for which he deserves credit and I do not.  Yahoo 
has other attribution-mangling shortcomings that have been recently 
discussed in his seeing, so he gets no credit for not expecting Yahoo to 
be be tricky there.

Quoting, threading, attributing, etc is to make it easier for people to 
keep track of who said what, but it doesn't relieve the people of the 
responsibility for what their messages say when they choose to send 
them. Of course people are not perfect, and I don't blame them for their 
unintentional mistakes, but I would like to encourage them to try some 
alternate arrangements that will help them avoid being visibly mistaken 
so often.

-- 
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana
< http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >

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