Dome, Dome on the Range
David Stockhoff · 13 Jan 2011, 15:56
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:56:57 -0500 Subject: (urth) Dome, Dome on the Range In-Reply-To: <4D2F1B2B.1010702 at io.com> References: <850030.91086.qm at web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <261903.11019.qm at web161805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <980429.72652.qm at smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4D2EEA53.7030002 at verizon.net> <4D2F1B2B.1010702 at io.com> Message-ID: <4D2F20C9.9030809 at verizon.net> On 1/13/2011 10:32 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote: > On 1/13/2011 6:04 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: >> It suddenly occurs to me that though Severian sees cloud and rain in >> front of Lune, he never mentions clouds on the face of Lune. > > heh heh heh! Just what you would expect in my many-dome scenario. > >> Would lunar clouds just blend into the green at that distance? Do Earth >> clouds only stand out against our blue ocean, which Lune would never >> have enough water to possess? > > I'm not ready to agree that the moon could never posses large bodies > of standing water; Geoff Landis' article doesn't include crunchable > numbers for his watered-moon scenario, but I've consulted with Geoff > numerous times previous on similarly speculative scenarios and his > definite answers have always turned out to be well supported. > > That said, earthly clouds; whiteness stands out over land and sea thusly: > > http://reallyhardsums.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/599px-the_earth_seen_from_apollo_17.jpg?w=350&h=350 > > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/4pva64g > > while lunar features as "small" as the 85-km crater Tycho and its rays > are visible from earth by people with good eyesight, so the cloud > banks associated with lunar weather fronts ought to be visible from > the earth by most people some of the time and by some people most all > the time, even without use of instruments. > But that photo of Earth wasn't from the Moon. Also, it tends to emphasize the South Pole, but yes, it's clear that cloud masses stand out over land. This is a point in favor of domes, which might mist over but I can't imagine them turning white unless there is seasonal variation (i.e., winter). Unless the climate of the entire Moon is equatorial and all weather local (i.e., daily showers at 4:00 rather than large low-pressure systems) because of a lack of Earthlike "poles" (Severian does not note Lune's non-green poles, nor ice caps) and no jet streams, a wet Moon ought to have fronts and therefore masses of white cloud. Without fully understanding the effects of a non-tilted axis or small size, I can't parse this further. But then, I think we've already gone too far. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 110113-0, 01/13/2011 Tested on: 1/13/2011 10:56:57 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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