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the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes

Andrew Mason · 15 Jan 2011, 22:06 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com (Andrew Mason)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:06:42 +0000
Subject: (urth) the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes
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Marc Aramini write:
> Also this, while i look for the quotes where Kypris evades the question about the impossibility of Pas killing her.
>
> "Pas, whose Plan the Outsider had endorsed, was dead" ... "The monarch wanted a son to succeed him," the false Lemur had said. ?(208, epiphany of the long sun)
>
> Here we see that the Outsider has supposedly endorsed Pas' plan and that the monarch wanted a son, and this is repeated several times in the text, about the monarch wanting an heir.

It's a bit of a puzzle just where the Outsider endorses the Plan of
Pas: it doesn't seem to come up in either enlightenment. I think it
must be in the auguries from Auk's sacrifice. He tells Auk that soon
he will become a leader of men; he tells the city that they will find
safety between narrow walls; and he tells Silk to do his will and also
that of Pas.

It seems to me most likely that the Outsider's endorsing the Plan of
Pas just means that he wants to promote the exodus, and foundation of
a colony on a new planet - that's what 'the Plan' seem most often to
refer to. The fact that Pas once wanted an heir seems a distinct
point. The way Lemur puts it suggests he wanted a son to reign after
him on Urth, and wherever else he ruled. I do agree the heir theme
ought to point somewhere - especially since Scylla, when explaining
the same facts, clearly leaves something unsaid - but I'm not sure
where.

 ?The only stopping point that makes me ponder if indeed Mr. Wynn is
correct in cloning is where Silk see's his own face on Typhon at the
end.

If I remember rightly, Mr Wynn does not think Silk is a clone of
Typhon, but a clone of a son of Typhon.

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