the prime calcula/his citadel and oreb

Marc Aramini · 16 Jan 2011, 20:44 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:44:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) the prime calcula/his citadel and oreb
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Interesting I will need to keep this in mind. And yes, this certainly certainly hurts Mamelta as Kypris.  Need to see if there is ever a solid description of her.  In any case, I can't dismiss the dream equation, all the women mentioned are provably possessed by Kypris at one point or another with or without including Mint except Mamelta and "Mother", so that really doesn't affect the argument, and seems pretty straightforward equivalency to me.  If it doesn't lead to something its just inane detail, which can neithe prove nor disprove ... but then you know, I just don't think Wolfe works that way.  

--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Andrew Mason <andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> . At that
> > point in the story he had seen Kypris twice, on
> Orchid's glass and at his
> > manteion Window, so he knew the color of her hair.
> *But her hair color is
> > never revealed.*
> 
> Thank you! I have been worrying about this for a while, but
> people -
> on both sides of the debate - have been talking so
> confidently about
> Kypris's dark hair that I thought I must have missed
> something.
> 
> I think this idea probably got off the ground because
> Kypris says that
> Hyacinth, who undoubtedly has dark hair, reminds her of
> herself at
> that age. But one could take the similarity to be a
> personality thing
> rather than physical. And the Chenille reference, which I
> hadn't
> spotted, certainly suggests that Kypris has red hair.
>

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