lameness

Lee Berman · 17 Jan 2011, 04:35 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:35:43 -0500
Subject: (urth) lameness
Message-ID: <SNT123-W20B574C8FE306AB45BDCB8CFF40 at phx.gbl>

>James Wynn: You might be interested in this, Lee....Another divinity later incorporated in the 
retinue of Dionysus, and often confused with the Satyrs because of his physical resemblance
to them, was the god Pan......

I am interested. Some of it I've encountered before. The connection between Dionysus/Bacchus 
and Pan/Faunus is almost impossible to escape with the ubiquitous depictions of bacchanalic, 
satyr/faun orgies. Also I've bumped into the bit about Pan's name pertaining both to PAStoralism 
and ALL things.

This presents a very explicit genealogy of how Dionysus/Pan can manage to be both father to and 
son of Zeus, with Hermes and Apollo thrown in for good measure. While this appears to have relevance
to the writ-small version regarding Pas/Tussah/Silk on The Whorl I am interested in the bigger picture 
of how it relates to The Outsider, Severian and Dionysus (Father Inire).

An excellent new tidbit is the mention of Priapus. This eternally aroused version of Pan is quite
analogous to the Innus epithet of Faunus which I think gives Father Inire both his name and his monkey 
(replacing goat) features.

>...But I still say that Silk was also the born of Kypris/Bird of 
>the Woods, as impossible as that seems.

I am willing to listen to all your ideas, James. I think the idea of Spring Wind= Typhon with Alexander
as the connecting theme is the best idea I've heard in a while on this list. How does this tie in?

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