the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes

Gerry Quinn · 19 Jan 2011, 02:52 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: gerryq at indigo.ie (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:52:39 -0000
Subject: (urth) the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes
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Message-ID: <882BE7527C8540ABAD6FA2F7314844B1@jill>


From: "Marc Aramini" <marcaramini at yahoo.com>
> --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie> wrote:
>
>>  (including Silk and
>> Pas, their friends and enemies, and many who had no axe to
>> grind either way) could have been part of some grand
>> conspiracy which makes no sense and is NEVER EVEN HINTED AT IN THE TEXT>
>
> Gerry, wait, put these quotes from the book together.  Look at what you 
> wrote.  Never hinted at?
>
> "The monarch had wanted a son to succeed him."
> "Kypris, who was Hyacinth and Mother, too."
> "In its place stood a bronze-limbed man with rippling muscles and two 
> head.  One was Silk's."
>
> How can you say Silk's face on Typhon is not at LEAST a
> hint?  These are about as clear 1 -2- 3 steps as you can get.
> The monarch wants a son to succeed him, kypris is his mother,
> oh, his face is there on the monarch's shoulders.  I am not even
> putting any interpretation in those facts.  Those are at LEAST a hint.

You misunderstand me.  I wasn't talking about hints that Silk might be a 
clone of Typhon. What I'm saying is that if he is in fact such a clone, 
there must be a grand conspiracy between everyone who knows both their faces 
to hide it, and ther is no hint of such a grand conspiracy.

But as for your point above, I think the bronze-skinned man is a 
representation of how an uploaded Silk would be part of Pas.  It says 
nothing about Silk's genealogy.  It's about the future, not the past.

- Gerry Quinn


>   I don't think its definitive of cloning, but it is definitive of a close
>  relationship between Silk and Typhon, and other statements in
> New Sun indicate Typhon is very fond of his face.
>
> (I don't think that necessarily makes Silk a clone, but it sure
 doesn't make him not related to Typhon genetically)

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