the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes
Jack Smith · 19 Jan 2011, 14:20
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From: jack.smith.1946 at gmail.com (Jack Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:20:51 -0500 Subject: (urth) the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1101191422040.7913 at orpheus.qimr.edu.au> References: <SNT123-W2A5E73298E027FCEAD5FCCFF70 at phx.gbl> <0CCA19F99C2942AA80F73A1473CC1F9E@jill> <AANLkTinGybjMatiQ9APTfB9qijvZA1dUdAgcwwsWAW-o at mail.gmail.com> <394A6A08C23D4AD58EB5EFD325E85218@jill> <Pine.LNX.4.64.1101191422040.7913 at orpheus.qimr.edu.au> Message-ID: <AANLkTi=4rSWfOdhBG+4WoAKSjRO8aJ=cczxZsMLVhwro at mail.gmail.com> Let's make the green man work! On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:31 AM, David Duffy <davidD at qimr.edu.au> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Gerry Quinn wrote: > > >> From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <danldo at gmail.com> >> Gerry Quinn wrote: >> >> > I think the more obscure clues can often be pointers to the ideas Wolfe >>> > is >>> > getting at, but I also think that in his SF it's the concrete events >>> and >>> > details - the stuff that actually happens - that holds the key to >>> > understanding. It's not the Mystical Kabbalah - it's a science fiction >>> > story, guys! >>> >>> No it isn't. It's science fantasy. >>> >> >> Maybe. I think Wolfe would probably call it science fiction - that's what >> he >> > > I'm pretty sure there was an interview where he described it as science > fantasy, which I found interesting because of the statement by many writers > at that time that there is no such thing. That is, either it is fantasy > because the science is too soft or absent, or it is proper science fiction, > with one allowed impossibility. BotNS has lots of deliciously wrong > science, such as the useful properties of contraterrene matter mentioned > earlier. > > > However, the solar powered green man can be made to work: bumping up the > photosynthetic efficiency of the algae, changing his metabolism to something > closer to the poikilotherms, or allowing him to visit a high intensity > solarium every day: > > tropical insolation 6-7 kWh/m2/day, equivalent 5100-6000 kcal daily; > body surface area 1.65 m2; > exposure ratios for standing man 0.14-0.39 from site to site (I use 0.2); > (for a supine sunbather 0.35 say); > > Unfortunately, the theoretical maximum for current (two pigment) > photosynthesis 9%, so he must use tweaked algae and cyanobacteria containing > quantum dots to get 60% efficiency (he can use IR, for instance). > > This gives him 1200 kcal/day. > > Ectotherms have basal metabolic rates 3-4 lower than a endotherm, partly by > doing very little between meals. A 65 kg individual with the same > metabolism as a Komodo dragon (Nagy et al Ann Rev Nutr 1999; 19:247) would > have a field metabolic rate of 810 kcal/day. Energy use for walking and > running is supposed to be same for endo and ectotherms eg 50 kcal/km human > walking, so he would be able to walk 8 km before tiring. > > Obviously on Urth in prison, he lies fully outstretched in the sunbeam for > as long as possible, but insolation is perhaps close to that in Scotland > (say 1/3 of tropics), so reducing his intake to only 700 kcal. At 6000 > kcal/kg fat, he loses 500 g of weight a month in captivity. > > Cheers, David Duffy. > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > -- Best wishes, Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20110119/eedf7b9d/attachment.htm>
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