the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes

Gerry Quinn · 20 Jan 2011, 01:04 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: gerryq at indigo.ie (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:04:09 -0000
Subject: (urth) the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes
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From: "Marc Aramini" <marcaramini at yahoo.com>
--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie> wrote:

> > That is Mucor speaking through Mamelta. Mucor woke
> > her before she said that, and Mucor still possessed he
> > after she said that. When Mamelta is in her own mind
> > (or vice versa) she never says anything of the sort.
> >
> > Why does Mucor say it? In real life anorexia is often
> > understood in terms of a young woman attempting, for
> > whatever reason, to abnegate her nature as a sexual
> > being. I think that her repressed sexual instincts
> > break out when she is wearing the stolen body of another
> > woman. Of course one cannot equate a character like
> > Mucor with a real person, but I think that the psychological
> > pattern is related.

> And you know for a certainty it is Mucor speaking at that point,
>  that there is no subconscious bit of Mamelta influencing her?
> Remember that she told Silk that she is saving herself for the
> man she'll marry when they met in person.
>
> "'We'll be lovers,' the woman told him loudly, her voice breaking
> at the penultimate syllable.  Her hair was as black as Hyacinth's,
> her eyes a startling blue deeper than Silk's own." (litany 454).
>
> Is it clear that it is completely 100% Mucor speaking here?
>
> So you refuse to allow that the words Mamelta says have
> ANY chance of coming from Mamelta?    No chance at all?

They can't come from Mamelta, because after Mucor leaves Mamelta, Mamelta 
and Silk spend a lot of time alone together, and Mamelta never says anything 
of the sort again or does anything to indicate that she wants to be Silk's 
lover.

Our reasonable expectation is that they must come from Mucor, since Mucor 
was in control of Mamelta.

Perhaps they don't mesh very well with what Mucor said earlier, but perhaps 
they do.  Mucor is saving *her* body for the man she'll marry (or Death, 
perhaps). But she seems willing to make very free with the bodies of others.

And while we're at it, why exactly do you think Mamelta wants to make love 
to Silk anyway?  Because he is a Typhon clone and she is Kypris?  There are 
a million reasons ruling both of those out anyway!  Because she was his egg 
donor?  Not a good reason to be his lover (rather the contrary), and no 
evidence that she was anyway.

And if this Sleeper is someone special to Silk, how would Mucor know?  She 
has woken others in the same vault before.

- Gerry Quinn

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