the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes

Marc Aramini · 20 Jan 2011, 16:23 · from 2011-January.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:23:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) the prime calcula/his citadel and other quotes
In-Reply-To: <9C0C76DCCCE5460E9DFE254A84ED5161@jill>
Message-ID: <480981.94889.qm at web161809.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie> wrote:

> 
> And then look at other facts such as the fact that Mamelta
> when she is in her own mind never says anything about being
> Silk's lover...
> 
> 

The fact is the mouth of Mamelta utters those words, and I think it is Mamelta, and you think it is Mucor.  Not only is it evidence that Silk is recognized.  You ignore everything that is pointing to the same thing, like, for example, when he is with Mamelta he feels as if he is being held by his mother, the certainty Mama was coming down in the tunnels, the statement later that he knows how he came to be later thanks to an experience underground, and you dismiss it ALL with really realistic, flat, straightforward readings.  THESE CLUES ARE ALL CONSISTENT GERRY.  I EVEN QUOTED WHERE IT SAYS THE MEMORIES OF THE MONARCH AND HIS FAMILY WHERE REMOVED, AND STILL SHOWED RECOGNITION MUCOR RECOGNIZING SILK, BUT YOU DISMISSED IT.  Who is ignoring information in the text now?  This is not even  a big leap.

How can you show me Eleanor Bold is Mrs. Porter in Peace?  The above statements are like ten million times more direct, copious, and clear, and they are all consistent, ALL WE NEED IS A REASON FOR TYPHON TO GET RID OF HIS LOVER AND WIPE HER MEMORY, but it sure seems like she was included in the Seal to be awoken at a VERY particular time as part of the plan of Pas, but that time was prematurely reached.

Okay, I've said my peace.  I just can't believe that a flat literal interpretation takes so many dismissive views of consistent evidence, this IS NOTHING like where Gene was trying to really hide stuff.

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