grumble at wolfe comment made attached to guardian article

Marc Aramini · 07 Feb 2011, 01:04 · from 2011-February.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:04:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) grumble at wolfe comment made attached to guardian
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--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (urth) grumble at wolfe comment made attached to guardian article
> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 4:38 PM
> Literary fiction is entitled to its
> pretensions. That is, after all, what distinguishes one made
> up story from another sufficient to call it "literary."
> 
>

I guess.  But then you know there are these grants and stuff, like Vollman getting 50,000 tax free for five years, for, as you said, creating a made up story.  Just reeks of ... injustice?  I don't know.  But those pretentions are so ... repetitive and boring?  The best SF is sometimes pretentious in novel and interesting ways.

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