Inhumi in the Whorl

Gerry Quinn · 10 Feb 2011, 19:10 · from 2011-February.txt.gz

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From: gerryq at indigo.ie (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:10:35 -0000
Subject: (urth) Inhumi in the Whorl
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James Wynn wrote:
> On 2/10/2011 10:38 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote:

> It's impossible to fix up whatever you've done to the formatting] 
> 
> > But... we still have no real evidence that the VP can travel back in time and move physical objects. 
> 
> "Pike's Ghost" went to Pike's room, wore his callote, made noise. The fighters with the Rajan on Green fought and killed inhumi there. If the the Rajan can astral-travel, so can the Neighbors. It is certainly not a 

There's no particular reason to believe that Pike's ghost was a time traveller.  Also, if Neighbours fought with Horn on Green there is no reason to believe they were engaged in dream travel - it seems more likely that they phased in from the parallel universe in which their Neighbour Whorl is located.  And they obviously didn't get to the Neighbour Whorl by dream travel, because where are their sleeping bodies?

[In fact, there no real reason to suppose that the Neighbours can dream travel at all, or even sleep.  All the dream travel we see in the story involves humans and inhumi.]

> > It makes Windcloud a liar when he says he and others boarded the Whorl.

> Why?? Do you think "boarded" has to mean walking up a ramp onto a ship as loved-one wave to you from the dock? Why can't boarded mean "got onto the ship by astral travel? You can't just limit terms to mean what you arbitrarily decide you want them to mean. 

Even if the Vanished people can dream travel like Silkhorn, they can't do it without already having been there, or having someone with them who was there.  Since the Whorl was still approaching their star, no lander carrying humans could have yet arrived on Green or Blue.  So they must have gone there physically.

We are also told the Vanished People left inhumi on the Whorl - that doesn't seem possible with dreak travel as we know it..  

> > And even if for some reason the Neighbours did not go to the Whorl as they said but inveigled some inhabitants to Green by some mysterious time manipulation - it still does not explain how Quetzal got *into* the Whorl.  (And him flying to it is very questionable too as it does not appear to have been orbiting very close to Green.) 

> I don't believe there is any evidence on this either way. Most of the time Green was far from Blue and then at certain times of the year it was within a 100,000 miles. I'm sure the same was true for the Whorl regarding Green and Blue.

I don't see why the Whorl would have gone in so close when it was much further away at the time the landers were axtually despatched at the end of BotLS.  But anyway, the question still remains.  Let's assume Quetzal has somehow been born on Green, and that he flies to the Whorl and lands on its rocky and desolate surface.  How does he get in?

- Gerry Quinn

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