Introduction and Breath
David Stockhoff · 17 Apr 2011, 20:50
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:50:51 -0400 Subject: (urth) Introduction and Breath In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=RCPVs0JO=DW3LJ2+vqZQX8NYHhg at mail.gmail.com> References: <BANLkTik_4w2RyPg-_cSBwYYPO68HEkA55w at mail.gmail.com> <2287.2.6.15.19.1302728897.squirrel at websecu.irit.fr> <6C450A90F88D4BA997DF9DCF98FAAF33@jill> <4DA6EFD6.5010307 at gmail.com> <526475.52363.qm at web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BANLkTimqnEO1A3qTuLGdCBKAyDPTKnUaow at mail.gmail.com> <4DA881E1.1080906 at gmail.com> <BANLkTi=RCPVs0JO=DW3LJ2+vqZQX8NYHhg at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DAB52AB.1060203 at verizon.net> I think the test here is "more unreliable than is usual in science fiction." It's a pretty low bar Severian clears with ease, just by his lies of omission. Gerry's comment that, to Severian, "just a moment ago" is long enough to compose ~50 written pages by hand is another example, however limited in effect. On 4/16/2011 4:58 AM, Daniel Petersen wrote: > So glad people are asking about Severian as unreliable narrator! I > suspect it's one of those ideas that someone said in a review and then > it got blurbed on a jacket cover and then it just became the > 'official' interpretation and is now in an endless repeat loop. I > don't think I have ever yet mentioned it in comments or reviews about > New Sun as I simply don't understand it. I'm totally open to being > shown how it is the case, but the reasons given in this thread are, > frankly, unconvincing. They show how Wolfe's narrative art overall is > strange and tricksy and indirect and elusive - things I /do/ talk > about in commenting on all of Wolfe's fiction - but not how Severian > himself overall is helpfully and accurately described as an > 'unreliable narrator' or how this is a central and significant trope > that characterises tBotNS. It's all hints and suspicions and > possibilities - which are great, but should be left at that I think. > > We still await the carefully documented and argued case for Severian > as unreliable narrator. > > -DOJP > > 2011/4/15 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com > <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>> > > Antonin Scriabin wrote (15-04-2011 17:48): > > Severian's perfect memory seems selective. There are moments > where seems to say "I have a perfect memory, except for when I > don't". > > > Am I misremembering, or one of the first pages of NS goes like > this: 'So Drotte was doing something... did I mention I have a > perfect memory? I have a perfect memory! Anyway, Roche was doing > something...'? > > Almost cartoonish. Roger Rabbitish. > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net <mailto:urth at urth.net> > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 110415-1, 04/15/2011 > Tested on: 4/16/2011 4:59:24 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 110417-1, 04/17/2011 Tested on: 4/17/2011 4:50:51 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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