Drotte-Roche mixup

David Stockhoff · 19 Apr 2011, 22:54 · from 2011-April.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:54:47 -0400
Subject: (urth) Drotte-Roche mixup
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Diabetes is perhaps a more likely disease than leprosy (and Betel was 
fat), but it tends to strike the lower limbs before the hands. I suppose 
if Rose had access to legs, no one would have known she had a problem at 
all ... you'd think the hands would have been replaced much later, but 
she was 40 when she lost one arm.

I suspect that Betel was diabetic but Rose had another condition.

On 4/19/2011 12:48 PM, James Wynn wrote:
> I'm glad it helped, David.
>
> My answers to a lot of your questions are implied by my explanation at 
> the link I gave.
>
> I'll take a shot a few of them anyway.
>
> 1) I believe we are tipped about origins of some of the chem's souls. 
> I think Sand for example is Typhon himself. I think that is the source 
> of Silk's speculation in Blood's house about he and Sand being 
> "brothers" in some broader Outsider's world. I think Silk and Sand 
> being --in a way-- Typhon is why they were key to resurrecting him. If 
> you buy that Mamelta was the original Kypris then she is a good 
> candidate for Marble (if you accept this, then there are references 
> that will buttress that Mamelta/Kypris was the mother of the original 
> Silk).
>
> If one accepts that Auk is also a clone, then there are references to 
> argue that Auk/Hammerstone are sort-of twins in a similar way that 
> Silk and Sand are twins.
>
> 2) It is theoretically possible for Mamelta be possessed by the 
> Marble's scan. The possibility is suggested by the ability of Whorl 
> gods to possess bios. It is simpler to just say that Kypris is a scan 
> of Mamelta.
>
> 3) There is no reason that a single scan could not be used for 
> multiple chems. That would be more efficient.
>
> 4) I do not believe Betel was a chem. For my answer to that and as for 
> where the hands came from, see the link.
>
> On 4/19/2011 11:21 AM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:
>> Great explanation, James. I also appreciate the discussion of the 
>> nature of chems---it explains half a dozen minor mysteries, not just 
>> one. And raises new ones for me:
>>
>> Were Mamelta and Marble bio and chem versions of the same thing? 
>> empty vessels filled with stored souls with only the vaguest memories 
>> of Urth? Or did Typhon take existing brainwiped bios and put some in 
>> the Whorl and others into storage? What was (who were?) the source of 
>> chem personalities? can personalities be reproduced like an mp3 file, 
>> or is it only 1 per body?
>>
>> And you must be right about leprosy. It's about the only thing I can 
>> think of that would cause a sibyl to lose a hand and certainly the 
>> only disease. Maybe syphilis, but that's unlikely for a sibyl---or is 
>> it?
>>
>> Either one would tend to shorten a life span, when we know Rose was 
>> old (or was that merely my impression based on her hands?), and then 
>> there is the question of how either would ultimately be cured in a 
>> world where either would be a problem in the first place. I guess 
>> preemptive amputation might stop leprosy. Maybe sometimes it just stops.
>>
>> More new mysteries: did Betel and Rose therefore have the same 
>> disease? or was Betel a chem? If she was a chem, why was she made old?
>>
>> if not, what chem did the hands come from? Were all female chems made 
>> to look human? Were some made to look old? Were the first sibyls chem 
>> crones? How does one get to be a sibyl anyway--can you have a 
>> shameful past life?
>>
>> I think Rose would have been quite happy to accept crone arms, and as 
>> a sibyl she is supposed to be uninterested in the vanities of flesh 
>> anyway.
>>
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