"Realistic fiction leaves out too much." - Gene Wolfe
Jeff Wilson · 01 May 2011, 04:38
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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:38:11 -0500 Subject: (urth) "Realistic fiction leaves out too much." - Gene Wolfe In-Reply-To: <4DBCDD6F.2030506 at gmail.com> References: <4DBB1060.1020105 at gmail.com> <794632.94323.qm at web161803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <BANLkTinVfFohh9fu7VwbgjSKKOfv2Bg-0Q at mail.gmail.com> <4DBB3F16.4000500 at gmail.com> <BANLkTikERbP9OsLJArNvPEp1PScccdP1SA at mail.gmail.com> <4DBC3F51.6070703 at io.com> <BANLkTik4f3+Pam8qjUpd0iViPKQqyJq4-Q at mail.gmail.com> <4DBC9266.4030005 at verizon.net> <4DBCA633.5040904 at gmail.com> <4DBCCB09.80406 at io.com> <4DBCDD6F.2030506 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DBCE3B3.2000004 at io.com> On 4/30/2011 11:11 PM, James Wynn wrote: > >>> James Wynn: >>> I think Wolfe's problem with it was that there was no reason not to have >>> written the story in the Realistic genre. It was a Naturalism story with >>> SF scenery. Pointless. It didn't deal at all with all the "other stuff" >>> that Wolfe thinks Realistic fiction cannot address. >>> >>> Of course the same could be said of Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" -- >>> just War fiction with lasers. >> >> Jeff Wilson: >> Can you tell me what page the lasers appear on? > > "Lasars" was only intended as a cipher for a SF. "ST" is at its core a > fictionalized military service memoir. That's awfully kind of you; I would say it's a persuasive essay on the supremacy of patriotic duty dramatized as a war memoir. > Honestly, I was only attempting to consider SF literature from the POV > of what I think were Wolfe's problems with 'The Dispossessed'. The > counter-argument could be "Oh, then Wes Craven's 'Halloween' is just a > Crime Thriller with a supernatural killer", or "Star Wars is just King > Arthur with extra shiny swords". You're doing the bogus details as part of the dismissive character, right? -- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana < http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >
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