"Realistic fiction leaves out too much." - Gene Wolfe
David Stockhoff · 01 May 2011, 22:44
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:44:52 -0400 Subject: (urth) "Realistic fiction leaves out too much." - Gene Wolfe In-Reply-To: <4DBDD23B.1090200 at io.com> References: <4DBB1060.1020105 at gmail.com> <794632.94323.qm at web161803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <BANLkTinVfFohh9fu7VwbgjSKKOfv2Bg-0Q at mail.gmail.com> <4DBB3F16.4000500 at gmail.com> <BANLkTikERbP9OsLJArNvPEp1PScccdP1SA at mail.gmail.com> <4DBC3F51.6070703 at io.com> <BANLkTik4f3+Pam8qjUpd0iViPKQqyJq4-Q at mail.gmail.com> <4DBC7A40.4090306 at io.com> <BANLkTinrXbXqxp9uQzr+Q8J_qustH5tUNw at mail.gmail.com> <4DBCCACC.6050401 at io.com> <BANLkTimXeh5vXTJu9B_WXBVgXcU+5aQYQw at mail.gmail.com> <4DBCD692.1070506 at io.com> <4DBD4D36.7030609 at verizon.net> <4DBD8AE2.1020701 at io.com> <4DBD9392.8020809 at verizon.net> <4DBD9605.5010106 at io.com> <4DBDBBFF.6090603 at verizon.net> <4DBDD23B.1090200 at io.com> Message-ID: <4DBDE264.3020709 at verizon.net> I see. But that's a practical matter, not a theoretical one. Certainly it's a problem, but if the conditions of horizontal and vertical nonexclusive democracy are met, then theoretically, why should not the worst excesses of strong arms (excess mortality, morbidity, deformities, poverty) be avoided? A more serious concern, I would think, is whether wealth can be created or must be stolen, even if only in small increments. In other words, when we run out of slaves and foreigners to exploit (and bomb), will our absolute standard of living rise or fall? On 5/1/2011 5:35 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote: > On 5/1/2011 3:01 PM, David Stockhoff wrote: >> Exactly. But there's nothing inevitable about exclusion from >> democracy/humanity. > > I don't see how a such a democracy can obtain the means to enforce > these ideals over all the world without corrupting them and rendering > the enforcement moot. > --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 110501-1, 05/01/2011 Tested on: 5/1/2011 6:44:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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