Sundial with "multitudinous faces"?
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 12 May 2011, 18:03
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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:03:53 -0700 Subject: (urth) Sundial with "multitudinous faces"? In-Reply-To: <4DCC1FEC.9090904 at gmail.com> References: <BANLkTi=Av8hgtqywSRrR2u2RK1besHpTBg at mail.gmail.com> <4DCB99B5.9090009 at io.com> <A4F1B6DA-7F73-4378-A889-3518B09A8DCA at butcherbaker.org> <BANLkTimfpzXR86OM+rS70VXQVF6V3dKGYw at mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTimFOJ2tbs42r+AdaU_DGq5ow4G2AQ at mail.gmail.com> <426F9A20-11AC-4493-AE69-5D8162933F6A at butcherbaker.org> <BANLkTikE9n4fvYpwQ6Zj2v7JVB+_bYza6A at mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTina2hR=CT=MhAAiayaEq853NG5YvQ at mail.gmail.com> <4DCC1FEC.9090904 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <BANLkTikA90EuN=sSXXTkT_1juHob8GmaqA at mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:59 AM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: > I would think you could. Any regular tick-tock could analogize a time using > a different synch. It would be incredibly complex though since a day > somewhere else would be represented by more or less than a single cycle of > the sun. Well, that was my point... > However, doesn't Relativity eliminate the meaning of synchronous time for > locations separated by many lightyears? I'm not an expert on this but it > seems I read something that implied that. For example, traveling in a > worm-hole (such the ones in the Stargate franchise) is actually Time-travel > as well. If there's FTL travel then some aspect of relativity is untrue. But: taking relativity at face value, there is no such thing as "time travel" -- or for that matter "space travel." There is only spacetime travel through a four-dimensional manifold. To move to another point in space is to move to another point in spacetime, and so to travel in spacetime. To move to another point in time while standing still, as one does at a rate of one second per second, is also to move to another point in spacetime. The problem is _why_ time is different and can't be navigated at-will the way the other three dimensions can, and no satisfactory answer to that has yet been proposed. -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
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