Sundial with "multitudinous faces"?
James Wynn · 12 May 2011, 20:35
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 15:35:35 -0500 Subject: (urth) Sundial with "multitudinous faces"? In-Reply-To: <881344.47809.qm at web114712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <BANLkTi=Av8hgtqywSRrR2u2RK1besHpTBg at mail.gmail.com> <4DCB99B5.9090009 at io.com> <A4F1B6DA-7F73-4378-A889-3518B09A8DCA at butcherbaker.org> <BANLkTimfpzXR86OM+rS70VXQVF6V3dKGYw at mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTimFOJ2tbs42r+AdaU_DGq5ow4G2AQ at mail.gmail.com> <426F9A20-11AC-4493-AE69-5D8162933F6A at butcherbaker.org> <BANLkTikE9n4fvYpwQ6Zj2v7JVB+_bYza6A at mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTina2hR=CT=MhAAiayaEq853NG5YvQ at mail.gmail.com> <4DCC1FEC.9090904 at gmail.com> <881344.47809.qm at web114712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DCC4497.5070602 at gmail.com> >> I would think you could. Any regular tick-tock could analogize a time using a >> different synch. It would be incredibly complex though since a day somewhere >> else would be represented by more or less than a single cycle of the sun. > Jerry Friedman wrote: > It would have to be magic. Sundials don't have a regular tick-tock. Sure they do. It's the yearly cycle of the sun. And that cycle (and fractions of it) can be used to synchronize anything. >> I'm not an expert on this but it seems I read something that implied that. For >> example, traveling in a worm-hole (such the ones in the Stargate franchise) is >> actually Time-travel as well. > Jerry Friedman: > If you can get from one place to another faster than light, as with a wormhole, > then you *can* use that to travel faster than light. But I got the idea somewhere that the actual mathematics of the wormhole theory does not allow you to cheat Relativity, so that the farther you travel (that is, the greater the actual distance of your destination) then your speed is all the faster than FTL travel and you therefore (likely) move back further in Time as well. It's just that when you return, you move the other way in Time so you don't notice. Of course, I might have been taken in by metaphor: They could have been actually saying that if you travel instantaneously to a distant star, you are moving FORWARD in Time since the star we can see from Earth is some number years ago. Or something along those lines. Anyway, it's probably not physically possible even if you could muster the near infinite energy to do it. There's all that Space being constantly created between us and the stars. We have enough trouble maintaining RF connectivity. Can you imagine the problems establishing a physical connection between two distant locations? Too bad because I really want one of those doors from "Howl's Moving Castle". J PS Incidentally, it's very annoying for me to watch movies that involve FTL travel. They never plot the Time distortions caused by their daily job. Captain Kirk spends months in Warp and never gets back to Earth just after he left (except when he goes back to 1968).
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