do the Hierogrammates *care* about the megatherians?
David Stockhoff · 20 May 2011, 11:32
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 07:32:22 -0400 Subject: (urth) do the Hierogrammates *care* about the megatherians? In-Reply-To: <4DD5D3EA.5080805 at io.com> References: <SNT123-W41EFC6ADDAE1EAB0420149CF8C0 at phx.gbl> <4DD33432.7020009 at io.com> <4DD3B104.4020305 at verizon.net> <4DD44CED.80108 at io.com> <4DD456E9.8060907 at verizon.net> <4DD5D3EA.5080805 at io.com> Message-ID: <4DD65146.80409 at verizon.net> On 5/19/2011 10:37 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote: > On 5/18/2011 6:31 PM, David Stockhoff wrote: >> Then (a) what would be the "source" of the water (or rather of the >> energy that drives the water) and (b) since surely people still live in >> Tibet, was the Flood universal at all? > > b) The global cooling of Sev's time could have rendered > Tibet/Nepal/etc an iced-over hinterland with too little oxygen even > for genetic acclimation by "real" people. But I would think that some > of the underpeople must have survived for mythic parallel reasons, and > if they made it, there's no way to rule out a few humans in the mix. > Of course, Severian himself survives to "contaminate" Ushas with the > sins of Urth, so there might as well be other Urth humans in the > woodpile on that account as well. > > a) The source of energy driving the Flood would be the tides from the > advent of the White Fountain. The only hints we are given as to its > size or scale is that its purpose is to renew the sun, and that > Typhon relates he was told the sun had dimmed by 7 parts in a thousand > IIRC. This could mean a lot of things depending on which scaling laws > we choose to interpret it the value give, from 7/1000 the mass of the sun > down to zero and back up to the same figure in negative mass. The > closeness of approach matters of course, but I can't recall if tides > scale by the third or fourth power of distance. > > Of course---the tides themselves! In that case, there is no way any but the oldest mountains could be overwhelmed, but I think you're right---there is enough evidence in TBOTNS to believe that even in the Commonwealth very few people had permanent settlements among mountains. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 110520-0, 05/20/2011 Tested on: 5/20/2011 7:32:23 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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