do the Hierogrammates *care* about the megatherians?
Lee Berman · 20 May 2011, 15:18
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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:18:04 -0400 Subject: (urth) do the Hierogrammates *care* about the megatherians? Message-ID: <SNT123-W220B7E3214FF82B9BAC2DDCF710 at phx.gbl> >Gerry Quinn: I don't think the 'seventeen megatherians' were anything to do with Erebus, >Abaia etc. The number doesn't particularly match, but more important than that, we have >a book called "The Lives of the Seventeen Megatherians" which has a somewhat historical >feel to it, as if the story of the megatherians (whoever they were) is long over. To go with Gerry's scenario I'd have to also accept that the number of the "Group of 17" is a coincidence. Also that Cadroe of the 17 Stones, the black bean story etc. are unrelated. And that Wolfe labelling Abaia as "Great Beast" has nothing to do with the literal translation of Megatherian. I'm disinclined to do all that. Moreover, RttW suggests the sea monsters were well established in Severian's boyhood and I'm inclined to think their growth required something close to the 1000 year post-Typhon history of Urth. I'll go out on a limb and suggest seven megatherians are named, Abaia, Erebus, Scylla, Arioch, Ouroboros, Jurupari and Amphisboena. Did I forget any? Maybe the other 10 are unnamed. Or maybe they are Juturna and her nine sisters. 100% speculation for fun on my part. >James Wynn: I posit that Abaia is against Severian's Hieroian friends, but he is personally >unconcerned about the upcoming flood. I like this line of thought. The New Sun's actions will allow the creation and ascension of the angelic Hierogrammates who will displace the demonic Megatherians. But, ironically, the creation and production of angels requires the genocide of Urth's humanity while the maintenance of the demon slave-masters would involve the salvation of Urth's humanity. (as Andrew mentions) Tzadkiel tells Severian that his is a race of pawns. I take the metaphor at two levels. Superficially, Tzadkiel is referring to the uni-directional ability of humans to move through time. And I love the implied chess analogy that Severian is a pawn who arrives at the end of the chessboard (universe) and returns to the board as a higher piece with multi-directional time-travel abilities. But surely Tzadkiel also implies that, as pawns, humans are the most numerous and expendable pieces in the game they are playing. Of course sometimes the game CAN hinge on the actions of a pawn. But not usually. The chess analogy implies there is an opposing side (who but megatherians?), with their own pawns, whom the Hierogrammates must defeat to achieve success. As the Hierogrammates are (presumably) closer to the Increate than Megatherians, given their angelic form, we are not surprised that they prevail in the end, as ordained. So, one way or another, perhaps by Jeff's geological mechanisms or perhaps via something else, the dark side has been checkmated by the light side and the coming of the New Sun. I find this chess analogy to be a satisfying model for what is happening above the human drama in BotNS. We pawns have our intricate stories to tell, even if we are not really so cosmically important as we think. p.s. James, I think the actions of Juturna (perhaps Typhon, perhaps Hethor) and the words of Master Ash leave little doubt that Abaia, et al. are, in fact, trying to gain control of the New Sun. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
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