do the Hierogrammates care about the megatherians?

Sergei SOLOVIEV · 22 May 2011, 16:14 · from 2011-May.txt.gz

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From: soloviev at irit.fr (Sergei SOLOVIEV)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 18:14:15 +0200
Subject: (urth) do the Hierogrammates *care* about the megatherians?
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There are obviously also the elements of "Jungle Book" by Kipling, the 
story of
"man cub" Mowgli <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowgli> who is raised by 
wolves in the Indian jungle -

Sergei


Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> From: Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie>
>>     
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> ...
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>> There are some interesting bits in regard  to the name of Frog, incidentally. 
>> Early we are told how he got his  name:
>>
>> *********************************
>> Because they had been found in  the water, the boys were named Fish and Frog
>> ....
>> "I shall call him Frog,"  said the she-wolf. "For indeed the Butcher angled for 
>> frogs, as you said, O my  husband." She believed that she said this in 
>> compliment to the he-wolf, because  he had so readily acquiesced to her wishes; 
>> but the truth was that the blood of  the people of the mountaintop beyond Urth 
>> ran in Frog, and the names of those  who bear the blood cannot be concealed for  
>> long.
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>> Just like  the story of the Student, it's a mash-up of ancient and more recent 
>> mythology  (somebody noted on some board, perhaps correctly, that the Student 
>> also includes  the Battle of Hampton Roads, with the Minotaur becoming the 
>> Moniter), combined  with added stories by Wolfe, and futuristic technological 
>> trappings.  The  idea is that the tales mutate and pick up elements of the 
>> time(s) when they are  re-told.
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> I trust somebody has mentioned Lovecraft's "Shadow Over Innsmouth", with its 
> "fish-frog" creatures from under the ocean who mate with people and whose blood 
> eventually reveals itself (though I don't think their names do).  They worship 
> Cthulhu, who's from "the stars", though I don't think it's clear whether the 
> fish-frogs themselves are native to Earth or another planet.
>  
> James> >  Obviously, ambiguity is built into Wolfe's novels. There's no false 
> positive  test. I'm pretty comfortable that I'm right about this. Maybe I should 
> get  serious about locating Fish.
>   
>> Remus, obviously.
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> Which brings us, appropriately or not, to the Tar Baby.
>
> Jerry Friedman
>
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