Wolfe's brilliance or my denseness?
Jason H · 23 May 2011, 16:54
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From: beet31425 at gmail.com (Jason H) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 09:54:43 -0700 Subject: (urth) Wolfe's brilliance or my denseness? In-Reply-To: <4DDA7D57.4010505 at gmail.com> References: <B542EE90-126D-4106-9484-A3287823FC32 at gmail.com> <594643.67958.qm at web161819.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <BANLkTinRLkaUs099APsHvDrTHUx9Vw7GnQ at mail.gmail.com> <4DDA4E15.8060102 at verizon.net> <4DDA7D57.4010505 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <BANLkTimj9o9PFRtBf7JyS8jwkVStN80t=g at mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the recommendation, James. I've seen that article before, but I'm going to hold off on actually reading it until I read _Urth of the New Sun_ (which will happen once I finish my reread of the four books). I agree with a lot of what folks are saying, and I do think Wolfe makes you figure lots of things out. But to me, the only things for us to figure out are things that Gene Wolfe himself knows about and intentionally put in. I can't imagine him saying, if asked, that he really intended e.g. Agia to be Sev's cousin-- that he purposely and cleverly scattered clues so that a careful reader would receive that particular revelation. Whereas it's clear that he intended the Citadel towers to be rockets, even though you have to work to see it, and might miss it. I'm not saying New Sun doesn't contain deep mysteries. I'm saying its mysteries are more ambiguous, and less answer-oriented, than these kinds of identity puzzles, which seem made up by the readers. No disrespect intended to Robert Borski or anyone on these forums who finds these kinds of analyses fruitful. You guys are awesome, and I hope to get to know the novels as well as you. I just disagree with you in some ways on what's interesting here. :) -Jason p.s. The issue of puzzles and author intentions can get tricky. When I read Margaret Atwood's _The Handmaid's Tale_, I thought I was so clever by figuring out the narrator's true name. It was subtle, but it was clearly there. Or so I thought. Years later, I heard Atwood interviewed on the radio, and someone asked about that name. She said that she understood why people thought it was what I had thought, but this was totally unintentional on her part! I was shocked. I'm still not sure if I believe her. :) On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: > Jason H. wrote: > >> Wolfe is smart and clever, but I don't think the way he shows his >> cleverness is by leaving elaborate clues at that level of misdirection. At >> the level of tower-as-rocket, yes. But more elaborate and obscured than >> that, I've never seen evidence for. It just doesn't strike me as the kind of >> thing he's interested in (based on reading interviews and Castle of the >> Otter). >> > > Jason, > I rather than a response, I recommend to you this essay as a starting > place: > http://www.irosf.com/q/zine/article/10536 > > Wolfe seems to deliberately write his stories with much more back-story > than he intends his narrators reveal or know. And the elements of that > back-story are often not incidental. > > J. > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20110523/a9e3d88b/attachment.htm>
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