Ymar

James Wynn · 25 May 2011, 22:38 · from 2011-May.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:38:17 -0500
Subject: (urth) Ymar
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The chronology based on the Rajan's spirit-travel is pretty dicey. The 
Rajan is a Time traveler, and if you consider pay attention to when Horn 
left home, and how long ago Hoof and Hide left, it is clear that the 
Rajan has been jumping around alot.

On 5/25/2011 4:16 PM, Sergei SOLOVIEV wrote:
> Chronology of Urth seems to me extremely interesting. To add to our 
> discussion some
> more elements/questions:
>
> Silk/Horn "spirits" travel to Urth when Severian is an apprentice. 
> Apparently the interval
> between their visits on Urth is the same as on Blue, so they came the 
> same
> year.  First time, when they are with
> Rigoglio, they discuss how much time passed between the departure of 
> Whorl and
> their visit. Rigoglio was put on the Whorl by Typhon, and the date may 
> be very precise -
> it is the last year of Typhon rule. There is a traveler who says how 
> much dead part
> of the city moves during one generation (about one block US sense). 
> There is several
> leagues between the street where the house of Rigoglio stood and the 
> fringe of Nessus.
> For the Whorl only 300 years passed, but we understand that it was 
> relativistic
> "shrinking of time". So it is maybe several hundreds of generations, 
> but not much more
> if the speed of the city fringe remained constant.

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