Sea monsters
Andrew Mason · 28 May 2011, 20:33
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From: andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com (Andrew Mason) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 21:33:27 +0100 Subject: (urth) Sea monsters Message-ID: <BANLkTin1O89wUn0DnVbw6kN4PFFC3Vxn3w at mail.gmail.com> There's an interesting passage in _Urth_ which I think illuminates the recent discussion. UOTNS 37: Severian talking to his followers in prison (the speech which was transcribed by Canog). '... the ice in the south is already gathering new strength. To this ice of ten chiliads will be added the ice of the winter now almost upon us, and the two will embrace like brothers and begin their march upon these northern lands. Great Erebus, who has established his kingdom there, will soon be driven before them, with all his fierce, pale warriors. He will unite his strength with Abaia's, whos kingdom is in the warm waters. With others, less in might but equal in cunning, tehy will offer allegiance to the rulers of the lands belong Urth's waist, which you call Ascia; and once united with them will devour them entirely.' Several things here: . a. There are two big monsters and an indeterminate number of little monsters - perhaps as many as fifteen, though we can't know that. b. It explains what Erebus is doing so far north, though his base was in the south. c. It explains how they came to dominate the Ascians - by originally offering themselves as servants. d. It shows that the monsters were already established on Urth in Typhon';s time - which fits _Short Sun_, but does not seem to fit, on a natural reading, Typhon;s words in SOTL. Come to think of it, this might be relevant to the question of a changing chronology.
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