Sea monsters
Daniel Petersen · 29 May 2011, 12:33
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From: danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com (Daniel Petersen) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 13:33:44 +0100 Subject: (urth) Sea monsters In-Reply-To: <461371.7760.qm at web114701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <BANLkTin1O89wUn0DnVbw6kN4PFFC3Vxn3w at mail.gmail.com> <F57194FF9CEC4A4BBCD17FEB6D424055@jill> <BANLkTinZzsS+1ZvP-KarNNchqM01bfOjFQ at mail.gmail.com> <461371.7760.qm at web114701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=SrY7fhwqNC2GkDG+-W8Lny5uEWA at mail.gmail.com> > I feel Wolfe is engaging with that kind of cosmic >horror in the background of the whole BotNS <jerry_friedman at yahoo.com> wrote:I don't see that, though. If you believe in God as Wolfe and Severian do, you don't have to worry much about cosmic horror, just about alien monsters and things like that. Though there might be some of Pascal's and Lovecraft's horror of the gulfs of space--the Empirical Bogey, I think C. S. Lewis called it--in the scene where Severian sleeps under the stars in the mountains (SotL, Chapter XIII). Well, yeah, I guess if you mean 'you don't have worry about it' in the sense that if Christian theology is true, then 'theocomedy' (as the theologian Thomas Oden calls it) trumps cosmic horror in the end. But that doesn't mean you don't have to engage the *worldview* that all is horror and chaos at the centre and in the end. Which is what I think Wolfe is engaging with throughout much of his fiction. We're frail and finite beings and we have to engage one another's 'ultimate commitments' in our art or it lacks plausibility and persuasion and cohesion. Anyone who wants to embrace cosmic horror has to engage its possible opposite to be believable. And vice versa: if Wolfe ultimately exhibits theocomedy in his art (as I think he does as a whole), then he must engage its potential opposite(s) as represented in things like Lovecraftian cosmic horror. I think he does this very well and interestingly in fact. (As does Lewis in various places, e.g. Perelandra.) -DOJP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20110529/97a96d4c/attachment-0001.htm>
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