Typhon's nature

larry miller · 11 Oct 2011, 15:49 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: biglar1984 at gmail.com (larry miller)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:49:42 -0400
Subject: (urth) Typhon's nature
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During Severians encounter with Typhon he tells Severian "though Ive
lived again but a day Ive sent my thoughts to far places.  There are
those in the sea that would rule us".  Typhon I think more or less
senses the presence of the megatherians instead of actually
communicating with them.

On 10/11/11, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/2011 6:51 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>> On 10/10/2011 11:12 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2011 12:59 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2011 1:29 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>>>> The talking machines could intercept intelligence from the Asciians'
>>>>> transmissions and preserve it for their master's review. Jonas, for
>>>>> example, is a machine that knows about the great beasts without being
>>>>> currently at the south pole or under the sea. He probably lost his
>>>>> antennas for far communication, though.
>>>> It's possible. It's just a lot to expect the reader to guess. And
>>>> Typhon, by his own account, is not one to speak indirectly.
>>>
>>> But neither is he given to elaborate for the benefit of others.
>>>
>>> It's not so much to guess; Mt Typhon itself is such an outpost and
>>> Typhon is master of its numerous machines by word. Since he allows
>>> Severian to transcend distance and "see" distant parts of the Urth as
>>> if present above them, it's not such a stretch to think that he can do
>>> that for himself and more besides when he's not busy putting on a show
>>> to secure his hold on the unsuspecting Conciliator.
>> OK, but how does it explain talking to the monsters in the abyss, who
>> were not there before he slept, as he stated he did? Why make this
>> complicated?
>
> I'm not sure how it is especially complicated by the overall standards
> of the BotNS, which incorporates several times its wordcount of tropes
> by reference and allusion.
>
>
> As for talking to the monsters in the abyss, who is doing that and
> when/what chapter?
>
> --
> Jeff Wilson - jwilson at clueland.com
> Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana
> < http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >
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